He's a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
~ The Beatles
From Fox News
WALLACE: How would you characterize the deal the Treasury Secretary Geithner offered you on behalf of the president this week?
BOEHNER: A non-serious proposal.
The president is asking for $1.6 trillion worth of new revenue over 10 years, twice as much as he has been asking for in public. He has stimulus spending in here that exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider.
It was not a serious offer.
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WALLACE: Take us behind the scenes. Take us inside the room. What was the mood music when Tim Geithner sits there, like we are here and presented this to you? What did you say?
BOEHNER: I was flabbergasted. I looked him and said, "You can't be serious."
I've just never seen anything like it. You know, we've got seven weeks between Election Day and the end of the year. And three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense.
WALLACE: OK. So, if they are wasted, where are we now? And, quite frankly, what are the chances we're going to end up going over the cliff?
BOEHNER: Well, right now, I would say -- we're nowhere, period. We're nowhere.
We've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. But the White House has responded with virtually nothing. They've actually asked for more revenue than they have been asking for the whole entire time.
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WALLACE: I want to ask you one other question about their offer, because this was a real surprise. Geithner also said they want you, Congress, to give up any powers over voting an increase in the debt limit forever.
BOEHNER: Forever. Silliness.
Congress is not going to give up this power. I've made it clear to the president, that every time we get to the debt limit, we need to cut some reforms that are greater than the increase in the debt limit. It's the only way to leverage the political process to produce more change than what it would if left alone.
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WALLACE: You've talked about the fact that the president won and you came out with a concession the day after the election. They point out that the president campaigned on raising tax rates, you know, and it was the big issue, between him and Romney. And, they say, just as he had to cave, after your victory in the 2010 midterms, now, it's your turn to cave on tax rates.
BOEHNER: Listen, what is this difference where the money comes from? We put $800 billion worth of revenue, which is what he's asking for, out of eliminating the top two tax rates.
But, here's the problem, Chris, when you go and increase tax rates, you make it more difficult for our economy to grow. Half of that income is the small business income. It's going to get taxed at a higher rate. And as a result, we're going to see slower economic growth.
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Boehner is 'nowhere' because his owners, Norquist and the Koch brothers, will not let him go 'anywhere.'
~ comment by Mes on Yahoo News
Boehner reminds me of Sheriff Bart, in the movie Blazing Saddles, holding a gun to his own head.
~ comment by Zeph on Yahoo News
Well Mr. Boner..when 67% of Americans say tax the rich, you will be going somewhere...OUT ON YOUR (__!__) !
~ comment by Tim P. on Yahoo News
Operation Rolling Tantrum
Oh, boy. This isn’t going to end, even when or if a deal is reached on defusing the austerity bomb; John Boehner has just declared that he’s going to hold the full faith and credit of the United States hostage every time we hit the debt limit. Nor will it be a case of holding the nation at gunpoint until it meets GOP demands; Republicans are signaling that they don’t intend to make any specific proposals, they’re just going to yell and stamp their feet until Obama soothes them somehow.
~ Paul Krugman in NYT
Despite Boehner’s rhetoric, there is no economic evidence to suggest that taxing income above $250,000 hurts the economy. In fact, business thrived during President Clinton’s tenure, as the wealthy paid more.
~ Igor Volsky on Think Progress
Boehner just shot himself in the foot
. . . If he's saying that it doesn't matter whether we have revenue from the rich or spending cuts from the rest, this is pretty devastating. It shows how out of touch they are with the middle class, and if I was Obama, I would hammer that every day.
~ Coolelegans on Daily Kos
This is all a win-win for the President. If he gets what he wants in the negotiations he looks good. If we go over the cliff which is looks like we are, all the polls show the American people will mostly blame the Republicans.
~ comment by Jooce81 on Mediaite
Memo to Agent Orange: there was an election. Your side lost, big time.
~ comment by HuskersLoveBO on Mediaite
#Boehner: Won't somebody please think of the gazillionaires? #fiscalcliff
— Memo (@m3mo) December 2, 2012
@foxnewssundayThe cliff is fine with me Mr. Boehner, it'll be your choice and party's legacy
— Gail (@theal2) December 2, 2012
John Boehner: "I'm flabbergasted at Obama's fiscal cliff proposal! Why, I clutched my pearls before fainting in the parlor! Oh, my!"
— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) December 2, 2012
I'm not saying Boehner is holding the middle class hostage but he keeps making his demands from a pay phone outside Newark.
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) December 2, 2012
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